President Obama Enlists Help of the Faithful in Battle for Health-Care Reform: ‘I Need You to Spread the Facts and Speak the Truth’

In an address to a coalition of faith leaders today, President Barack Obama reitereated his stance on the need for health-care reform, while seeking to dispel “ludicrous ideas” on the issue that have come from those who oppose his legislation.

Appearing on 40 Minutes for Health Reform, a live BlogTalkRadio special sponsored by more than 30 religious denominations and organizations seeking to make clear to Congress that quality, affordable health care for every American family is a moral priority, the president called on congregations nationwide to assist in his charge.

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"We are closer to achieving reform than we have ever been," President Obama tells us. (Photo: Pete Souza)

“I’m going to need the help of all of you. I’m going to need you to knock on doors, talk to your neighbors; I need you to spread the facts, and speak the truth,” Obama said during the event, which was part of the “40 Days for Health Reform” cam- paign launched Aug. 10.

“Time and again, men and women of faith have helped to show us what’s possible when we’re guided by our hopes and not our fears.”

The president also analogized his health-care reform efforts to 20th century struggles for other, then-controversial social programs.

“Throughout our history, whenever we’ve sought to change this country for the better, whenever we’ve sought to promote justice, there have always been those who wanted to preserve the status quo,” he said.

“And these struggles always boil down to a contest between hope and fear. That was true in the debate over Social Security, when FDR was accused of being a socialist. That was true when JFK and Lyndon Johnson tried to pass Medicare. And it’s true in this debate today.”

To hear 40 Minutes for Health Reform, including President Obama’s full address, click here.

To read more about “40 Days for Health Reform,” click here.

Following is the full transcript of the president’s address.

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President Barack Obama
40 Minutes for Health Reform on BlogTalkRadio
An Address to members of the ’40 Days for Health Reform’ Coalition
August 19, 2009

I know we’ve got thousands of people on this call from many different denominations and faiths. But the one thing that you all share is a moral conviction. You know that this debate over health care goes to the heart of who we are as a people. I believe nobody in America should be denied basic health care because he or she lacks health insurance. And no one in America should be pushed to the edge of financial ruin because an insurance company denies them coverage or drops their coverage or charges fees they can’t afford for care that they desperately need. And these are the stories I’ve heard all across the country.

Families that are denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions. Folks who’ve had their health insurance revoked because they got sick. Millions of people paying shy-high premiums and exorbitant out-of-pocket expenses. If you haven’t had an experience like this yourself, then I guarantee you know somebody who has.

And that’s why it’s so important that we pass health-insurance reform. I know there’s been a lot of misinformation in this debate. And there are some folks out there who are, frankly, bearing false witness. But I want everyone to know what health-insurance reform is all about.

First of all, if you’re one of the nearly 46 million people who don’t have health insurance, you’ll finally have quality, affordable options. If you do have health insurance, we’re going to help make sure that insurance is more affordable and more secure through a set of common-sense consumer protections.

Insurance companies will no longer be able to deny you coverage because of a pre-existing condition, or to revoke your coverage just because you get sick. We’ll place limits on what insurance companies can charge for out-of-pocket expenses on top of your premiums. And we’ll eliminate arbitrary caps on your benefits. And finally, we’ll require insurance companies to cover routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopies. All of that saves money, but it also saves lives.

Now, I’ve said this before; I want to repeat it so that every member of your congregations understands this: If you like your health-care plan, you can keep your health-care plan. Nothing that we’re doing obligates you to choose any plan other than the one that you have. If you like your doctor, you can keep seeing your doctor. We’re not going to interfere with that.

Now, I don’t want government bureaucrats meddling in your health care, but I also don’t want insurance company bureaucrats meddling in your health care. And that’s what health-insurance reform is all about.

We are closer to achieving that reform than we have ever been. And that’s why we’re seeing some of the divisive and deceptive attacks – you’ve heard some of them. Ludicrous ideas – let me just give you one example.

This notion that we are somehow setting up death panels that would decide on whether elderly people get to live or die. That is just an extraordinary lie. This is based on a provision in the House legislation that would allow Medicare to reimburse you if you wanted counseling on how to set up a living will, or other end-of-life decisions. Entirely voluntary; it gives you an option that people who can afford fancy lawyers already exercise. That’s the kind of distortion that we’ve been hearing too much of out here.

We’ve heard that this is all designed to provide health insurance to illegal aliens. That’s not true. There’s a specific provision in the bill that does not provide health insurance for those individuals. You’ve heard that there’s a government takeover of health care. That’s not true. You’ve heard that this is all going to mean government funding of abortion. Not true.

These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation. And that is that we look out for one another. That I am my brother’s keeper and my sister’s keeper. And in the wealthiest nation on earth right now, we are neglecting to live up to that call.

We also have an inter-generational commitment. People are concerned about spending right now, and deficits and debt. And by far the single biggest driver of our deficit and our debt is federal government spending on Medicare and Medicaid. And Medicare is about to go into the red in eight years. Many of you have older members of your congregations. They’re all now scared to death that someone is talking about cutting Medicare benefits. That is again simply not true.

What we have said is we should stop subsidizing insurance companies who participate in Medicare Advantage – and skim $17 billion to $20 billion in profits that could be used to expand care and give seniors better discounts on prescription drug.

Now, all of this is not a surprise. Throughout our history, whenever we’ve sought to change this country for the better, whenever we’ve sought to promote justice, there have always been those who wanted to preserve the status quo. And these struggles always boil down to a contest between hope and fear. That was true in the debate over Social Security, when FDR was accused of being a socialist. That was true when JFK and Lyndon Johnson tried to pass Medicare. And it’s true in this debate today.

So I’m going to need the help of all of you. I’m going to need you to knock on doors, talk to your neighbors; I need you to spread the facts, and speak the truth. Time and again, men and women of faith have helped to show us what’s possible when we’re guided by our hopes and not our fears.

That’s what you’ve done before. That’s how you were able to succeed in establishing Social Security and Medicare and bring about justice through the Civil Rights movement. That’s what you can do again today to help us achieve quality, affordable health care for every American so that you don’t have families out there who are worrying about going bankrupt because a child gets sick. So that you don’t have people who are desperate about a situation where they lose their job and suddenly can’t find health insurance again.

That’s not the way that our religious faith instructs us. And I think it’s absolutely critical that we make sure that we’re on the side of promoting the well-being and security of all Americans.

So I thank all of you. God bless you. And I hope that you will all help us move this process forward in the months to come.

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23 thoughts on “President Obama Enlists Help of the Faithful in Battle for Health-Care Reform: ‘I Need You to Spread the Facts and Speak the Truth’

  1. Randy Watts

    President Obama is losing the American people with his double talk. He says, “If you like your health-care plan, you can keep your health-care plan. Nothing that we’re doing obligates you to choose any plan other than the one that you have.”

    But his “plan” has not been published anywhere and the only written plan, House bill H.B. 3200, says that if you or your insurer makes any changes in your plan, it has to be changed to the government plan. And, H.R. 3200 says that all plans must be change to the government plan five years after the bill is effective. So, you can’t keep your plan.
    The President says, “I don’t want government bureaucrats meddling
    g in your health care”. But, the stimulus bill contains funds for studies to determine what treatments doctors will be allowed to offer, and H.R. 3200 sets up medical panels to tell doctors what treatments are acceptable to the plan. It sure sounds like “meddling in my health care”.

    The President says, “We’ve heard that this is all designed to provide health insurance to illegal aliens. That’s not true. There’s a specific provision in the bill that does not provide health insurance for those individuals.” But, the President also says that the bill will “cover 46 million people who don’t have health care.” Well, about 15 million of those 46 million are illegal aliens, so which statement of the President are we to believe.

    The President says, “Many of you have older members of your congregations. They’re all now scared to death that someone is talking about cutting Medicare benefits.” But, H.R. 3200 cuts Medicare funding by $500 billion, That’s a lot of money, and I don’t believe the government can cut $500 billion by cutting anything but patient services. If they could have saved that much by increased efficiency and cutting waste, they would have done it by now.

    I could go on, but you get the message. If you want to know what Obamacare is all about, read the bill. Don’t take any politician’s word for what is in it. You can find a copy from the government’s own website at –
    energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf

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  2. Jennifer Hoffman

    I buried my grandson a few years ago. He died because my daughter’s HMO refused to allow her to take him to a hospital. Why doesn’t this country have public healthcare? Because of something that happened post-WWII and health insurance companies got rich. I would rather deal with the government than fight with my health insurance company. Anyone who thinks that private health insurance is a better option has never been faced with $2000 a month premiums, like a family member who had a kidney transplant and can’t get private health insurance. Obama’s plans may have flaws but I vote for public health any day. Let’s charge a health tax on junk food, fast food, processed food and soda, which are all responsible for today’s health problems. Let Coke, Kraft, McDonald’s and KFC pay for our health care. Enough rhetoric about how the government plan’s flaws, let’s look at the fact that our health care system has this country in a stranglehold, medical providers and insurers are more concerned over losing their big paychecks than working out an equitable, efficient solution. Something has to change, no one should have to bury a baby because their insurance company decides it doesn’t need to be in a hospital.

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  3. Sweet Dee Love

    If your concerns are opposed to the bill and you feel that strong about it become an Activist for di people. Who knows you might be di one born to truly bring about a change!!! Get your plan out there it may be just what the Nation needs. We the People do have a say bring it to di Nation as I said previously!!! I pray all get their needs met and di Powers that be get “the people’s” input as well. Sendin Sweet Dee Love to us alll!!! Ciao

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  4. Steve Crane

    The House bill is just that, a House bill. It is a starting point and a work in progress. It needs work. Tell me, Sir, is there any part of HR 3200 that you support? My guess is you don’t have solutions, just criticisms.

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  5. Jeff K

    In a nation as great as ours, it is unconscionable, that we should have 15-25% of the people uninsured or underinsured. In most cases, your access to insurance is as tenuous as your job. Any solution must involve mandatory insurance for all. This accomplishes 3 things,
    > it provides insurance in the event of an unexpected crisis,
    > it creates a larger risk pool to reduce overall costs, and
    > it prevents people from opting in only when they are sick.

    We can not trust the insurance companies to make meaningful changes. It is not in their economic interests. Their profits are based on a percentage of their total costs. The lower the costs, the lower the profits. Insurance company administrative costs are 10 times that of the Medicare. At a minimum, we need a public option to keep them honest. They can not and will not make the systemic investments needed to reduce Health-care costs. I find that most of the issues raised about the potential government option or single payer system; are practices that are being performed by and accepted of insurance companies today. They already ration care, and select which procedures we will be allowed to get, just as the government will do. Not all procedures are valid or thoroughly tested. If you want one of these, they will still be available, you will just have to pay for it. Just as you do now. They are called elective procedures. The insurance companies already offer end of life counseling. This is a valuable offering, as end of life decisions are difficult. They also tell us which doctors, clinics and hospitals we can go to, and which drugs we can take. Is it fundamentally better to have a private insurance bureaucrat, whose incentive is to restrict services, make these decisions than a government one?

    I am a small business owner, and without a doubt a capitalist. But capitalism is not the solution to all problems. Some opportunities require an investment in a large integrated infrastructure, that is why the government built the road system, air traffic control system, and the military and why we have regulated monopolies like utilities. This is why I favor a single payer system. It will provide the backbone of the health care system. Underneath, the providers will still compete based upon service, quality, location and skills. The government should negotiate cost with ALL providers, just as insurance companies do now. It works in most of the rest of the western world. They all provide better quality care than we do; for all of their people, not just for some. They also do it for significantly less cost.

    It is time that we woke up and confronted this crisis. We HAVE single payer systems with Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA. None of those are considered socialism. I know of few participants in those systems that wish to give them up.

    HEALTH-CARE FOR ALL IS A MORAL IMPERATIVE.

    Matthew 25:40 “Truly I say to you, Because you did it to the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.” Or is your belief based on a more selective reading of the book

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  6. marty haas

    Imagine for a moment that Washington passed a new law dictating what your salary was going to be. This law targets just your profession because they’ve decided that it is a basic human right that everyone should be able to benefit from your profession at a more economical scale than your current salary allows. So Congress cuts your salary by 20%.

    Meanwhile, Congress also dictates that you are going to have to abide by several thousand pages worth of new rules and procedures, costing you several thousand dollars and many hours annually to review those rules and fill out the additional paperwork.

    If you were self-employed, you used to be able to set your own price for your services or goods. Your customers could choose whether to buy from you or shop elsewhere. But now, you and your competitors must charge the exact same price, and even if your costs to provide your service exceed the price that the government says you can charge, you are required to continue providing your service at a loss.

    Welcome to health care 2009. The biggest problem in American health care is about to get bigger. Medicare, Medicaid and the insurance companies have strangled the principles of a free market by forcing doctors to accept dictated terms of payment. This takes away the patient’s incentive to price shop, takes away the doctors’ freedom to determine their own value and forces the uninsured to pay higher fees to make up the difference between the doctors’ “needs” and what the government and insurance companies pay.

    Once the insurance companies are pushed aside, the government will have even more control over what doctors charge. This discourages marketplace competition, robs doctors of their autonomy, and discourages people from becoming doctors. Patients will receive worse care because the doctors will have to see more patients in the same amount of time to earn a living.

    The second problem with this debate is the assumption that basic health care is a human right. That is a false assumption. We all have the right to live our lives with as much freedom as we can experience without infringing upon the rights of others. I have the right to eat, provided I’m willing to earn the money it takes to buy food. I do not have the right to make you pay for my meal. Nor do I have the right to demand that a doctor treat me without compensation. And it is his right to dictate the terms of his compensation. If he charges too much, I can go see another doctor. If they all charge too much, then I can decide whether that care is worth my making other sacrifices to pay for it. I have the right to buy insurance so that I’m able to afford the doctors if and when a need arises. I do not have the right to wait until a need arises and then demand that they sell me health insurance.

    One key to all this is to ask yourself, when I insist that health care is a human right, whose rights do I take away in the process? Whom do I make a slave to my demand for health care? The answer is the doctors, the nurses, the scientists who spend countless hours doing research, the janitor who cleans the floors at the pharmaceutical companies, the truck driver who delivers the newest medical equipment to the hospital, the retired couple living next door who spent 30 years investing their retirement money into the pharmaceutical companies. To make my health care available to me, regardless of my ability to pay, means that all these people have to give up some of what they are rightfully due for their work and investments. I don’t have that right.

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  8. bkm

    As a registered nurse, I am grateful for the new proposed health care plan. In my practise, I have seen the difference between the care “allowed” to be given to my patients by straight medicare, versus medicare “managed” care. These Insurance companies consistently decide who lives and who dies through denial of claims. Insurance companies have policies in place to deny the insured, to cap costs, simply to make money for the insurance company. When medicare management organizations stepped in to MANAGE medicare, my patients lost their right to some critical aspect of care (normally approved through medicare), while medicare insurance managers pocketed the financial differences. I have personal private insurance, and when I was hit by a vehicle and required diagnostics, they COLLECTED my deductible, then denied my claim. The board of insurances can give anyone statistics on the number of insurance companies named in class actions lawsuits.

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  9. Alan A

    I think we should not be in such a rush to pass healthcare reform. I believe there are many persons in America that have wonderful ideas on reform. These ideas should continue to be studied, showcased, and collesced to come up with the best working solution for all Americans. Use a few hundred or thousand real case scenarios to ensure the plan actuallly works without tipping the scales in an unknown or unexpected way. Pay a few billion dollars to bring these people together for the time it takes to get it done, just as we brought the brightest together to go to the moon and launch the shuttle. The ground rules should be No. 1 how to best care for the people, no politics. As the plan is completed, give time for the American people to understand it and ask questions. Give enough time for the American people to understand it and ask questions (repetition intentional).

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  10. Marcy

    POWERFUL FACTS FROM SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY READ THE HEALTH CARE BILL

    SOURCE:
    Herman C. Statum; M.S.
    CHS-V, DABCHS, CPP, CFE,
    Certified Fraud Examiner
    Certified in Homeland Security
    Certified Protection Professional
    Diplomat, American College Forensic Examiners
    Subject: A few highlights from the first 500 pages of the Healthcare bill in congress
    Contact your Representatives and let them know how you feel about this. We, as a country, cannot afford another 1000 page bill to go through congress without being read. Another 500 pages to go. I have highlighted a few of the items that are down right unconstitutional.

    • Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
    • Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
    • Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
    • Page 42: The “Health Choices Commissioner” will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
    • Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
    • Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
    • Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
    • Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
    • Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
    • Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
    • Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
    • Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
    • Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
    • Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No “judicial review” is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
    • Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
    • Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
    • Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
    • Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll
    • Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
    • Page 167: Any individual who doesn’t’ have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
    • Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
    • Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal
    records.
    • Page 203: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it really says that.
    • Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected.”
    • Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
    • Page 253: Government sets value of doctors’ time, their professional judgment, etc.
    • Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
    • Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
    • Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
    • Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
    • Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
    • Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
    • Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
    • Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on “community” input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
    • Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
    • Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
    • Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
    • Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
    • Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
    • Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
    • Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
    • Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
    • Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient’s health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
    • Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
    • Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
    • Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
    • Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
    • Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.

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  11. williamb

    Marcy, I didn’t know there was a need to READ the bill…it seems like there’s a new motto for many: In Barack We Trust. Suddenly, questioning, analyzing, debating, and independent thinking are being bashed….and labeled…..It truly makes me feel that we have failed as a nation in our public education.

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  12. williamb

    Also, why the propaganda? Why the haste? Hospitals have been granted/guaranteed money (our money) for the hiring of “disadvantaged” health care workers. Have we been told? I happened to find out as my sister is applying for a hospital position upon her graduation next year (she is a physician, with over $200,000 in student loans, not “disadvantaged” according to the grant) I am so concerned about all this money being spent at a time I don’t believe we can afford it.

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  13. The Truth

    “Imagine for a moment that Washington passed a new law dictating what your salary was going to be.” Ok. Now that I’ve done so, let’s move on to something relevant to the subject at hand.

    Now Marcy, what you describe does not appear in any proposed bill. It is likely you were reading something unrelated to any current proposed legislation.

    Germany has a public option that exists with private insurance (as do other countries.) Hospitals and doctors are more likely to be private entities there than in the US. The overhead for their public and private plans? 3%
    Similar to Medicare’s ~4% and far less the American private insurance industry’s 30%

    Other insurance industries primarily receive profits, like banks, by investing the money they hold, paying back almost all they receive. The nature of healthcare insurance means that when people need it the most — when they are sick or disabled — is the best time to screw them and hold back that 30% of what they paid into the plan.

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  14. KCNewell

    Thanks, Marcy, for providing some evidence for people to read.

    Obama’s holier than thou radiocast is for one reason only —to push his liberal, big spending agenda. What a hypocrit. Obama is disengenuous, he is lying about republican cooperation in this process, he is lying that he never said he is for a public option (see videos from two years ago). I am unable to believe a word that comes out of his mouth. People—get educated on what is going on! Don’t be so naive that you believe this government really cares about YOU.

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  16. Alan John Taylor

    People the world over who are well and capable must make a lifelong contribution .
    Persons ill, injured, needing health care must be provided with a free service.
    Contribute when well, recuperate free!.
    This is not a profiteering situation but an essential ingredient to a stable healthy international society!
    Unfortutunately the world has too many predators whose only motives are to benefit from the weaknesses of others.
    Too many politicians feathering their own nests and not enough statesmen/ women able to inspire, guide, sustain and prolong the future stability of the human race — seemingly hell bent at the moment on self desctruction

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  19. Dr. Theo

    Jennifer Hoffman wrote: ” I buried my grandson a few years ago. He died because my daughter’s HMO refused to allow her to take him to a hospital.”

    What!? Your daughter let her child die rather than go to the ER and risk having to pay out of pocket? Her HMO could not have prevented her from taking the child to an ER. If my child were that ill I would have stopped at nothing to get the care he needed and then worry about the money later.

    Emergency, life-saving care is available to every American, even illegals. What you are arguing for is economic security not health care. Why should other Americans have to pay even more in taxes to make sure your economic condition is not threatened? In a sane world that is called theft.

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  20. rose

    If someone had how much doctors could charge for surgeries or different thing they do ins companies wouldn’t be passing the high crap to the people who have ins. A doc. Charged us $500.00 for an office consultation because he hadn’t done too much lab work ect. The labs and exams came to $480 and the consultation was $500.00. Something has to be done to correct this. I’m written on my husbands ins. and they can charge whatever they want. Or can refuse to see me. Help! That’s only one of many like this. It’s too much for the ins.co. to pay. So it’s passed on to us to pay.
    Rose

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  21. Hal

    The costs of medicine is passed to us since Medicare does not pay its fair share AND it is illegal for doctors to pass it to the Medicare aged patient. That is the wealthiest generation but they believe they paid for this benefit when in-fact, the Government lied. The system was set-up as a ponzi scheme, the money put in would never cover the costs, was never put aside or invested, and was spent just like all our other taxes. Things could be better than they are now but trusting the Government-that-lies to make it better is not reasonable.

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