Movie Geeks United have an Oscars post-show.

Of host Ellen Degeneres’ performance, they say that “there wasn’t any effort put into writing it… it almost seemed as if it was being improvised… I just didn’t think it worked, really,” although “she did a good job with what she was given, which is a very stale format.” They also mention such setbacks as John Travolta mispronouncing singer Idina Menzel’s name and just generally “lots of dead air.”

Listen to the full episode here.